October 06' ATE

 

Question 1 :   Jay Shah (Flight C)


No trump is bid by east over your partner's suit bid and they end up in 3 NT contract. When should you lead your partner's suit? Always, Sometimes or Never ?

Panel's Responses

 

Ken Bland

Most of the time the exception  is (in the rare instance) when you have a great hand of your own KQJ10x and an entry.

 

Tom Kniest

1.  Lead his suit if you don't have a good lead of your own, even if it's a singleton.
  
2.  Lead his suit if you have 3+ card length or a powerful doubleton...109, J10, 98 etc.
  
3.  Lead your suit if it's a good one and might be set up with one key card from pard.  After all, he did bid and could easily have a high card to help you.  If you have no entry outside your suit, you need a little better suit to lead.

Mainly...use common sense.  Never let some "rule" override thinking for yourself. The rules are there to guide your thinking, not make you a robot.

Roger Lord

Sometimes

 

Tom Oppenheimer

If you have a very attractive lead of your own You should go ahead and lead it. Don't play out of fear. If you don't have a good lead, lead partner's suit.

 

Nancy Popkin

Most of the time, I lead my partner's unless I have a good sequence of my own like QJ109 or something similar. I rarely lead a singleton in my partner's suit, if I have a suitable alternative. Even so, leading your partner's suit will rarely make you look stupid in the post-mortem discussions.

 

Fran Schiefler

In bridge, as in life, I don't believe in "always" or "never". Assuming "sometimes", then when ?

 

When you have almost no points and partner will be the one with entries. Someone has to start his suit and it may as well be you.

 

When you have a few points and at least a doubleton in pard's suit, but no decent suit of your own.

 

With a singleton in pard's suit, a decent suit of your own and some possible entries, it's usually best to lead your suit.

 

Ed Schultz

The answer is usually. Some of the decision is if partner opened a major or minor and what position is his opener. I lead partners suit unless I have a clear cut lead of my own.

Karen Walker

The answer is "almost always" if partner opened a major, and "usually" if partner opened a minor. The exception would be when:


1. You are very short in partner's suit;
2. You have a long suit that offers some hope of becoming established if partner has one honor (K10xxx, for example); AND
3. (Best) You have an outside entry.
  

En Xie

The first decision to be made on defense is the opening lead. There is no specific rule that applies to every deal. The most important clue in choosing an opening lead is the bidding. In general, if partner has bid a suit, lead that suit. Give yourself good reasons when you decide not to lead partner's suit. Holding short in partner's suit is a not good enough reason. You might consider leading your own suit if you think your suit is better than partner's and you have entry to set up the suit.

 

Milt Zlatic

I tend to lead partner's suit, especially if it's a major, unless I have a good lead of my own with a side entry. If nothing else, it's good for the partnership.

 

I never lead partner's suit when I am void.

Question 2 : Mark Gilje (Flight B)

IMP scoring, Non-vul vs. Vul.

 

In 4th seat, you have:
 

   Kxxx
     Kxxx
     x
     Kxxx

  
LHO opens 1D, partner overcalls 2H (weak).  At this vulnerability, partner may have just about anything.  RHO Passes.
 
(At this point in a 32 board match, I believe we are ahead by 10 IMPs or so.  Opps have shown themselves to be steady at both tables.)
 
I bid 3H.  LHO bid 3NT - P - P - P. The contract made.

The final auction:  1D-2H-P-3H

                                3N    All Pass 
 

  1. Was I right in only bidding 3H at my first turn?

     2.   Was my final pass correct?

 

Panel's Responses

 

Ken Bland

1. No "bid em up" 4 Hearts first

2. No-4H

 

Tom Kniest

If your partner had bid 2S, I could see bidding 3S, thus taking the entire suit 3 level away from them...but I still wouldn't sit for 3NT.  Since partner over called hearts, I would go right to 4, but would defend 4S.  I would not have defended 3NT in any event. Since partner can have "anything", why not bid 4 and watch him make every once in awhile?  He could have a hand like J10 Qxxxxx xxx Ax and you're on a spade finesse and a 2-1 heart break.   

 

Roger Lord

1. Probably not. It might be better to make a direct preemptive raise to four hearts.

 

2. No. LHO probably has long running diamonds, and he may make 3N while you have a cheap sacrifice. Suppose, for example, your partner has S Qx, H QJ10xxx D XX C Q10x. Four hearts would be down only one.

 

Furthermore, you stated that partner could have anything ---- does this mean he could have an ace ? If he has S Qx H QJ10xxx D xx C AJx, he might make 4H . and if your LHO has seven diamonds, their 3N would be cold. In that case, you could score a double-game swing.

 

Tom Oppenheimer

I am a firm believer in the law of total tricks. With 4 trumps I am an immediate 4 heart bidder. In any case you cannot allow the opposition to play 3NT with this hand. You may beat it but you have to take out insurance and bid 4 hearts now. An immediate 4 hearts would have put more pressure on the opposition.

 

Nancy Popkin

I would have bid 3D at my first turn, hoping partner could make the right choice, even if LHO had passed over 3D. Letting partner know that I have a limit raise and a singleton lets partner in on the decision to bid 4H to make or over 3NT to take the save.

 

Fran Schiefler

I would have bid 4H immediately. When I know we have ten trumps I almost always contract for 10 tricks right away, unless my distribution is 4-3-3-3. In this case, with favorable vulnerability and a singleton in opener's suit, I would bid 4H immediately.

 

Ed Schultz

I would bid 4 hearts over 2 hearts, the four trumps are big. I would not bid 3 three hearts and then 4 hearts. I wouldn't say partner can have just about anything at this vulnerability. You and your partner need agreement on the hands you open with at the one level, two level and three level and the difference position makes.

 

Karen Walker

I would have bid 4H rather than 3H, based on the "Law of Total Tricks".  I'm not a blind follower of "Law" recommendations in these situations, but this hand is perfect for it - ten trumps, shortness in their suit, optimum vulnerability.  

In the actual auction, though, I'd pass 3NT, treating this as sort of a "dance with who brung you" situation.  You bid 3H in the hopes it would be enough to disrupt their auction, so stay with the courage of that conviction.  You've forced declarer into a gamble, and if he guessed wrong, your strategy will have paid off.
 

En Xie

1. Against weak opponents, 3H bid might be a good idea. You might steal the contract. Against strong opponents, I doubt 3H would work well. Your LHO would bid 3nt to test you or double to show extra value and compete. I prefer to bid 4H immediately to put maximum pressure on opponents. Also, with 10 card fit, usually it's ok to play at 4 level. Besides, you have shape and in favor vul.

 

2. I would bid 4H. 3NT might or might not make. It largely depends on the length and strength of the diamond suit. 3N would go down if partner has stopper in D and reasonable H suit. Otherwise, it would likely be made. It's unlikely 4h would go down 3 or more unless your partner is a very aggressive bidder (then opponent would make 3nt). On the other hand, You might make 4H on a good day. Also, I think it's good idea not to make a big swing on this hand, considering you are ahead.

 

Milt Zlatic
T
he law says to bid 4 since you have 10 trumps. LHO probably had long diamonds for his 3NT bid. By bidding 4H you would have shut him out of playing NT. At IMPs, take out insurance, especially at this vulnerability. After bidding only 3H, you will get doubled if you bid 4H now (not that a direct bid of 4H wouldn't). Was it correct? Probably, yes. Was it right? No, they made a vulnerable game.

 

Question 3 : Sasanka Ramanadham (Da ATE Emcee)

  Rosenkrantz's double - good or bad ?

 

Is there a better use of the double after your partner's overcall is followed by a bid by RHO ?

 

Panel's Responses

 

Ken Bland

Many partnerships like Rosenkrantz doubles.

 

I like to play the most frequently used conventions. Other doubles in this sequence come up more than Rosenkrantz

 

Tom Kniest

Rosencrantz doubles and redoubles:
  
It can be a very useful bid - particularly the XX.  That way you can differentiate between a raise with a top honor and one without.  I have played reverse R XX's with one of my partners - the raise shows a top honor and the XX just a raise - useful when pard's overcall was J10xxx and you have 3 small.  If you wind up at the 2 level, they can't draw all 3 of dummy's trumps.   

 

Roger Lord

We play double over a raise (such as 1H-1S-2H-X) as "responsive", prepared for partner to bid one of the unbid suits or to rebid his own. We play double over a new suit (such as 1H-1S-2C-X) as "Snapdragon", showing five or more of the 4 th suit and two or more of partner's overcall suit. These doubles can be used more frequently and with better effect than doubling merely to raise with an honor.

 

Tom Oppenheimer

I am ok with this bid but only if I do not have a raise of partner's suit. I do not think a raise should deny one of the top honors.

 

Nancy Popkin

1H-1S-2H-X I believe that double should be responsive, meaning points and usually the other two suits.

 

1H-1S-X-XX I like the redouble to show the ace or king of partner's suit and I may or may not have a fit. I do not like it to show the queen because that encourages partner to lead the suit even when he has an unprotected ace.

 

Fran Schiefler

The Rosenkranz double/redouble is one of my favorite things. One of it's major values is when defending. You know it's safe to underlead AQxxx or KJxxx when partner has doubled or redoubled to show a raise with a top honor. For offensive purposes, showing an honor may help partner count possible losers.

 

Ed Schultz

Rosenkrantz is fine. I play the double shows the fourth suit with some tolerance for partner's suit. You just need agreement and for the right situation to come up.

 

Karen Walker

Bad, especially when partner has overcalled in spades. A Rosenkrantz double or redouble (to show a raise with a high honor) may help partner on opening lead, but if you have support, you should be hoping to declare rather than defend. A raise uses up a level of bidding, interferes with your opponent's auction and improves your chances of buying the contract.


If you do decide to play the Rosenkrantz double/redouble, you should agree that it promises just the ace or king. If you play it shows ace, king OR queen (as the convention was originally written), partner still won't know what to lead when his suit is headed by the ace.


A better use for the double is responsive if RHO raised his partner's suit (1C-1S-2C).  If RHO bid a new suit (1C-1H-1S), some play a double called "snapdragon", which shows values (and/or length) in the unbid suit and tolerance for partner's suit.


A better use for the redouble (after 1C-1S-DBL) is to show cards and defense - 10-11+ points, usually with a doubleton in partner's suit. It communicates a "this is [probably] our hand" message and suggests penalizing the opponents.

 

En Xie

I like Rosenkrantz double, but I don't think it's a convention every one has to have. Actually, I don't play it. The idea of Rosenkrantz double is by telling the strength of partner's suit to help partner more accurately judge and evaluate his holding. Sometimes, it also might help our side on defense. You might try Snap Dragon or other conventions if you are tired of Rosenkrantz Double.

 

Milt Zlatic

On an auction such as 1C-1D-1S-DBL or 1C-1H-1S-DBL, you can use the double to show the unbid suit and a tolerance for partner's suit.

 


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